That rule only applies to PUBLIC showings of movies, like if a student run organization wanted to have a movie night on the green for the student body. All women are required to keep their skirts at knee-length or longer and receive no piercings beyond one in the earlobe. If merely one look at offensive material is more powerful than the exalted Holy canons, your God sounds as defenseless against the Devil as you are. Because some might say that the strict rules only serve to lead people away. Outright banning everything that can be dangerous to someones health and character leaves much less room for students to learn moderation. Required fields are marked *. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); The Sobering truth of Cedarvilles Archaic Prohibition Rules. So go ahead and get offended on the internet because someone you dont even know wrote down the rules of strict colleges and made snarky comments about them. degree, but never got it. America as a whole is definitely not a good indicator of Gods standards as displayed in the nature of his Son and set forth in his commands. The caller said the victim was on the ground bleeding . "Clothing should not be excessively short or revealing," the handbook reads. Attempting to undermine everything I believe in? I had said I love you. and we hung up the phone. The handbook gives the wrong message in this part; dancing is not allowed in groups if it is /suggestive or sultry./ They try to limit large dancing gatherings because they, of course, cannot monitor everyone to make sure they are following that rule. I was there when the movie came out, and I remember some other students calling me unspiritual because I chose not to watch the movie with them. INVOLUNTARY ADMINISTRATIVE WITHDRAWAL This is a special, non-disciplinary process used when a student appears to pose a significant risk to self or to others, or when that students behavior infringes on the rights or educational process of others. If you EVER want to be in a highly sexually-charged atmosphere, these are the places to be. Absolutely true! Shorts, sweatpants, and pajama pants should not be worn to class or chapel. You arent writing truth, you are writing opinion. The demerits for infractions such as not wearing hose to dinner, being late to church, being late to class, staying up after 11 pm lights out to work on my art homework projects, etc. No one is being coerced into paying thousands of dollars to go if they dont want to. Seeing (or participating in) vigorous debates where practically nothing is held as a common assumption between the opposing debaters is a great way to develop someones intellectual capabilities, especially critical thinking skills. -Engaging in or Supporting Homosexuality, this one is tricky. There are so many problems with this statement. Your moral compass seems to be spinning. Maintenance Office. Nor have I lied to him about my history; including the fact that Im a divorcee from an arranged marriage at barely 16 to a man Id met twice, arranged to keep me out of trouble. [Emphases in original.] I attended Liberty from 99-01 and it was great. Most of the punishment is reserved for any involving impropriety, however. Why all the restrictions regarding dancing? But the following schools nonetheless play host to a number of regulations that seem rather appalling to mainstream society, and this article takes an admittedly irreverent peek at a little of what they have to say. If you dont stand for something youll fall for anything. go to freethoughtpedia and look up PCC and read the review of a former student. Regardless of popular opinion, political correctness, or the ideas of major theologians, truth is always truth. People can have jobs with alcohol or tobacco. Bob Jones University requires all students to attend regular church, Sunday school, society, Bible conferences, artist series programs, and vespers services on campus, though not necessarily in a single week. As a matter of fact, Im taking a dance class currently! If you want information about these schools, do your homework by going straight to the source. Major infractions largely accepted by mainstream society and allowed under American law include dating violation[s], owning potentially offensive media (which will get confiscated), swimming with the opposite sex, patronizing a movie theatre, attending a concert, receiving a tattoo or piercing, gambling, possessing pornography, or purchasing and using tobacco (even when of age). The former may not wear makeup, because breaking archaic gender tropes will rip the very foundations of society asunder. Comments? Public displays of affection beyond handholding are highly discouraged, as is fraternizing with those of the opposite sex on co-ed camping trips. Long before QAnon, Trump, and Anti-Vaxx, The Dry Pledge was THE Litmus Test of your Salvation. College is not supposed to be your babysitter, it is a learning experience meant to prepare you for the way the world is. Ten. She worked a part time job, attended church, volunteered at a local organization, was on a school team and carried a course load of 15 to 19 hours while maintaining a 3.8 GPA. When asked why not, her response is always that she lost a lot of her motivation and dedication for faith development because of the Asbury rules you were not allowed to grow up into responsible adulthood. OR a girl from State college,, who has photos of herself posted , throwign up drunk in a men`s bathroom, has slept with numerous other men, a couple of abortions behind her, and had sex with strangers on spring break because she was drunk and had to take penecilin afterward, then had to lie to her future husband about it all mmmm i`lll take the girl from the christian college,, thanks. Cedarville would be served well to move on from archaic legalistic principles of the past towards being an example of grace and freedom in Christ. An aquiantance who attended Bob Jones U told me that she was forced to accept an offer to go on a date with a guy she wasnt interested in because by not doing so she might miss the opportunity to meet the future mate God intended for her. DANCE We recognize that appropriate styles of dance can be a valuable part of art, worship, choreography, celebration, and exercise. If Jesus were alive, why wouldnt he want people to volunteer in nursing homes? If you have questions or need more information, please contact the student life deans. As for dancing it is entirely allowed. hahaha what a joke, and you call yourselves civilized. Furthermore, the views expressed in this article certainly do not represent those of Cedarville University. What do the students do when theyre not in classes? Penalties may include fines and/or imprisonment. An upper classman lied and told the dean that I had looked at a male student in a sexual manner while walking home from chapel and was campused w/in the first weeks there. Again, some book says so doesnt provide a justification of anything. Carson outlines ten items that can be used to determine what constitutes a theologically disputable matterwhich Cedarville claims includes use of alcohol. Because the nude human body is just as detrimental to society as a sawed-off shotgun. However, the rule only worked one way. Getting drunk is still a sin. It is based on a set of core values and the Cedarville Covenant which shape each students experience at Cedarville University. Students caught engaging in premarital, extramarital, and homosexual behavior face the risk of being expelled completely from Dallas Christian College as well. but those who curtail their rights are guilty of stupidities. This was in Roger Rosenblatt in his essay We are Free to Be You, Me, Stupid and Dead. Feb 25 (Sat) 3:00 PM. Neither freshmen nor sophomores are permitted to drive cars to work, either. My mothers beliefs were disliked, so when I became an orphan I was put into foster care by my family and forbidden to speak with my cousins or brother; I was a gateway for satan to taint them.. at 12 years old. I got to Oral and they dont follow you around but they are strict, I have piercings and Ive been told to put clear retainers in during class and school events. NOT even accurate. Wow. Premarital sex is wrong,the bible clearly states so amongst other things. I could go on, but. Guys did not have to accept dates with interested women. It is a small institution with an enrollment of 3,540 undergraduate students. Men may not grow their sideburns past their earlobes, have hair covering their ears, or keep moustaches beyond the corners of their mouths. If a student is of legal drinking age and wishes to imbibe in the summer, it is none of Cedarvilles business and does not impact them in any way. Students are prohibited from posting or sharing sexually provocative material. How about youth? Do you think Id have argued about a college? However, while I appreciate the desire to have a biblically based view on alcohol, I do believe this article misses the heart behind the rule of abstaining from alcohol while being a student at Cedarville. I was a student of your college from 1990 to 1997. From my own experience, when you walk away from God it usually has to do with decisions you have made and not lack of motivation or dedication. Political or social demonstrations including harmless picketing are completely banned on campus, and the University heavily discourages participating in any held off-campus as well. They cant dance, cant gamble, and cant even lightly use alcohol or tobacco even if of legal age. Anyone caught in such a position faces discipline or dismissal. It helps us to become better thinkers and writers! Some people feel safer if there isnt a lot of drinking and other rowdiness going on. If your happy with your life, enjoy it your clearly not hurting anyone and therefore absolutely entitled to that choice; and for many that way of life makes people better. Students are allowed in each others hall lobbies at any time during the week until midnight, and students of the opposite sex are allowed in each others rooms on Fridays, again until midnight. In addition, all freshmen with jobs must consent to being chaperoned by a prayer captain or one of their assistants or an upperclassman while working. I wouldnt go to any of these colleges, but youre giving them more crap than you should. Thankfully, Christian colleges provide a better environment than secular campuses. I have visited Pensacola Christian College many times and am planning to go there this fall. Students choose to attend and have full access to handbooks before making that decision. As discussed in the article on Cedarville's alcohol rules, when you make something illegal, it doesn't stop people who want to do it. Both Testaments contain warnings concerning the use and specific instruction regarding the sinful abuse of alcohol. As for chapel, yeah, its mandatory. People who attend strict colleges probably do so because they prefer a stricter environment. Welcome to Cedarville University, an exceptional Christian university in southwest Ohio. I wonder how they deal with Darwins theory? Lets see,,, marry a girl from a christian college who has conducted herself appropriately, has good manners, no baggage, no std`s, is modest and will make a good wife and mother. So quit whining about some article some guy wrote on the internet 3 years ago about the strict standards set forth by some colleges and start asking yourself- do these standards actually bring people closer to God or are they pushing us further away? All of you commenting on this comment box are complete fools have you not forgotten what country you live in its the United States people. If, however, you only ensure that they grow up in an environment where these are banned, this only serves to increase their allure should they ever break free from the strict and dogmatic rules that you place to limit their actions. While BYU does accept students who do not belong to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, they are still required to participate in the community as if they were. Sex is frequent, furious, and freaky. Even if you are a staunch conservative fundamentalist christian, I would not recommend attending Pensacola Christian College. because Students are also prohibited from recreational drug use, misusing legally prescribed medications, or using synthetic street drugs or medical marijuana. If you study at a high quality MBA program in the United States, you can use that degree to improve your reputation and career ANYWHERE in the world, unlike law or medical degrees (or worthless degrees from diploma mills). Cedarville police were called to the Stevens Student Center Tuesday morning after a 911 caller reported that a male student had been stabbed. Carson engages in an enlightening discourse on the disputable matters Cedarville references in the student handbook. Im not a Christian and yet I do not have pictures pasted on the internet of myself drunk and naked I dont even use Facebook or alcohol. The dress can best be described as business casual. But its greatly changed now. I am currently attending Liberty, and the rules are so laid back at least half the student body goes out late night and weekends gets messed up, and gets it with someone, theres plenty of ways around the rules, school is pretty fake. A little bit of bleeding and discomfort is not the end of the world at PCC. Cedarville police were called to the Stevens Student Center Tuesday morning after a 911 caller reported that a male student had been stabbed. Save for the dress code and media violations, most of these infractions can lead to disciplinary actions or even outright dismissal from the school. Id go ahead and start packing. Graduating 74% of students, Cedarville alumni go on to earn a starting salary of $35,200. Honestly, this is lazy journalism. God tried to strike me with lightning for being there but he missed.lol jk The rigor is tough and the women are drop dead gorgeousbut bottom line, they are human and live life very similar to everyone else, they just do it in a bit of a different way. D.A. Now on to the next part. For these students, drinking is not only unwise, it is also illegal. Access Gmail. This article reads like it was written by a the assistant editor of my high school newsletter with a skewed agenda and out dated infobut I enjoyed it. __________________________ If you tell your kids what smoking does to their lungs, they wont even *want* to smoke. both in this life and in the next. I cant believe you missed out on Bob Jones U finally lifting their ban on interracial dating JUST ten years ago. You heard about how bad these schools are from people who got kicked out? and everyone is a sinner, but it is much better to have standards (standing for something morally Welcome to a nation who makes each individual feel entitled to make his own god based on his opinion. She came from a wonderful Christian church in Atlanta with tremendous faith, knowledge, and ability. you know, just as there are Christians who behave badly, there are secular women who have higher standards. So do they follow the rules or not? I know several students who attended these schools and went nuts due to teh strictness of the rules.alot of them transferred to Liberty. In their quest to encourage their students to live like Christ or, more accurately, their interpretations of how Christ lived these schools push upon them a series of heavy restrictions involving their behaviors on and off campus. I dont even go to church anywhere around campus. 2:1317; 1 Pet. Those who attend any religious school, on their own desire, will attend one in line with their personal religious beliefs. They are advertised as Christian schools so it would be assumed that it would be mainly Christian people would be attending them. Openly homosexual students are allowed to attend classes, but they must commit themselves to the same standards of staunch chastity as their heterosexual peers. If you give your kids a firm understanding of probability, they wont even *want* to gamble. Instagram. Submit Maintenance Work Order. Some are grounds for immediate expulsion, while others build up over time before a student can be dismissed. We can have/get tattoos, we dont have to attend church at all if we dont want to. You should consider Faulkner Univsersity for one of these top 10. Then in a moment of disturbingyet not uncommonhypocrisy and contradiction, the next sentence reads, All students are expected to live independently and are responsible for their own personal care. Unless, apparently, you violate a non-Biblically based rule and are expelled from the University. YAAAY ORU and all the others. While some rules are debatable, yet this writer seems to think todays society are those who want to ban guns because they kill people, yet want to drink, smoke, and do whatever the hell they want because its there right. and I would rather put up with some questionably strict rules if that meant that Rebecca There is little finacial aid available in my opinion and the finacial aid people were less than helpful. 3) If God destroyed a city because there were some gay people there, the takeaway shouldnt be that homosexuality is wrong, the takeaway should be that the Old Testament God is an evil monster who at best needs to be disobeyed and at worst needs to be destroyed. I walked away 15 years ago and still have not come back but there were many factors involved. Not sure why you find prohibition of Occult practices to be a bad thing for those attending a Christian university. The year I spent attending Pensacola Christian College was the worse year of my life. The biblical expectation of modesty is that the conduct of both men and women, which includes but is not limited to dress, serves to enhance rather than detract from the reputation of the Gospel (1 Tim. I would strongly caution you to know he whom you so boldly challenge, and if you charge a holy God with unrighteousness, take note that it shall be accounted of in the day of your calamity. Additionally, using any source (such as D.A. But once again, if you believe in supporting them or neutral, they wont do anything to you or criticize you. They understandably discourage illegal and discourteous behaviors such as excessive drunkenness, but generally harmless actions like possessing legal pornography, moderate drinking, disciplined gambling, dancing, sensuality, premarital sex, and homosexuality all remain condemned and held up as just as harmful to young, educated minds. But honestly, the teachers and student body are just as lenient about the rule as they are in K-12 schools. The best approach is to research the college yourself and make your decsision. They do not prepare you for the real world unless you want to work at and be totally immersed in a strict, judgmental and very dogmatic church for your whole life. 5:1921; Eph. Any freshmen taking less than 24 hours of coursework must be in their dorm rooms by midnight on Monday through Wednesday and 12:30 AM on Friday through Sunday. 20:1; Prov. She did meet some students who were unhappy with Asbury for various reasons, like any students at any college. No one is going to forbid interracial or homosexual relationships, no one is going to forbid occult religions, no one is going to forbid fornication, and you wont be able to handle that. Um, we dance at ORU. Or would he rather you come to him of your own free will and respect him because you want to not because you have to. In other words, there is a difference between going out to drink with a friend who is an alcoholic and drinking in front of someone who is just offended by it. Look at the corrupt Catholic Church, and look at how many pastors are child molesters. There are as many answers as there are people to consider the questions, because the world exists in shades of grey. The admission office refused to release the student handbook until one signed on the dotted line, feet on campus for semester orientation and parents away from campus. A student may be subject to involuntary withdrawal from the University or from University housing if the student engages or threatens to engage in the following: Behavior that poses a danger of causing physical harm to self or others. In addition, neat jeans and flip flops are allowed in class and chapel. Raffles are not even allowed as fundraiser due to their association with gambling, which is also banned. Of those admitted 972 enrolled in the . To create a healthy environment for our students, and in some cases to comply with the Drug-Free Schools and Communities Act of 1989, Public Law 101-226, Cedarville University adheres to the following guidelines for all undergraduate students and graduate students enrolled in degree programs on campus, including those students who do not live in campus housing. If anything, its pushing them further away because they feel even more separated from God. It is not unreasonable for them to expect the students attending a Christian college to live up to the standards lai out for them. The only wont allow it if you practice satanism (for obvious reasons) or anything with sacrificing, pretty much.) Either way, check your facts before you publish. They are private institutions and can set their own policies. I went to a Catholic University in Los Angeles and they do not have rules like that sothere. A long time ago yes, it was a very conservative campus. they are legal. Whether you are the religion these campuses represent or not. I went to the definitely not religious university of Iowa State University years ago. I went to ORU and two of my children as well. Only God can do that. I was kicked out of BJU twice and finally asked to not come back to finish my JR semester. Giving into that division will never bring peace. Use of food and drink is listed by Paul in a discussion of disputable matters. We are advised to be careful not to place stumbling blocks in a brothers way. In the introduction of this article, many questions were raised, and no answers for any of them were argued for in the main body of the text. They rally behind the 10 Commandments, but when asked about their own practices, they quickly throw up the New Testament. I accumulated more than 100 demerits during my first year and because of this, they did not allow to me to return the following year. Ive never had an STD, nor have I had an abortion.. in fact Ive offered to adopt 3 children at my own expense to give other women an additional option. Theres a long thread on the forums at home-school.com about Pensacola Christian College by a former student who thinks its a cult, and its not accredited. I agree that dancing and such is probably a step to far, but the types of people who go to Christian colleges and the like are probably not as bothered by the restrictions you name. REUTERS/Dieu-Nalio Chery 23:3135; Prov. Hey Amos, youve got a very urgent meeting with Dr. Wood tomorrow. Any student requiring a personal care attendant because of a physical disability is responsible for making such arrangements. Are they genuinely pushing their students towards the path of Christ? After dusk, mixed groups are not allowed to fraternize without chaperones because having a group of friends including males and females alike is not normal psychosocial behavior it is improper and apparently leads to premarital sex and dancing and other alleged affronts to Jesus. Look at history. Choose this day whom you will serve, and if you will serve the Lord, beware, lest you make the grace of our God into Lasciviousness. Please rethink your mission before writing on something destructive. For these schools, leeching beyond the academic and school-related extracurricular functions and into the private lives of their students remains a high priority, with handbooks dictating very clearly how all of them must behave regardless of whether or not they live or play on campus. However, responsible use is not sinful, which is our primary point in this article. Im not talking about breaking these rules, Im talking about snobishly being on the look for anyone that might be breaking these rules and falesly accusing them. Part-timers or those with special circumstances must do so on days when their classes do not begin until after noon. In addition, they must refrain from participating in any pro-gay demonstrations or distribute literature involving equal marital and legal rights for their community. Case in point: I had been dating the same guy for over three years. Other academic levels are not stringently held to these policies, but they must sign out if they want to return after curfew. I understand your point, and I do believe the policy could be tweaked. I believe the answer lies with how students (like me) were raised. I wish that I could say that Asbury was an inspiration for my ethics and for the transformation in lifes journey but I have to say that came from my church experience, my family, UK, and other experience. Dyed hair and faddish or extreme styles are out, as are any piercings beyond the ears or a nose stud presumably allowed for cultural reasons. Reading the article, Im finding myself agreeing. You are loved. God forbid someone busts into a Riverdance in the middle of the student union. I read the qualifications for these schools and got to thinking about it seriously. The main thing I learned from my year there was how to be sneaky. Carson, writing for what is arguably Cedarvilles favorite theology blog The Gospel Coalition, writes, one should not confuse the logic of 1 Corinthians 8 with the stance that finds a strong legalist saying to a believer who thinks that eating meat offered to idols is acceptable, You may think that such action is legitimate, but every time you do it you are offending meand since you are not permitted to offend me, therefore you must not engage in that activity.. No college is perfect, 5:18; 1 Tim. Theyre not going to hunt you down or anything. As with many Christian colleges and universities, Liberty extends its behavioral guidelines to students who live off campus as well as on. Who is she to judge!? However was shocked at the unchristian like behavior these christains held. Unfortunately, that will probably never happen for one simple reason: Cedarville is so concerned with their image that they are more willing to treat their students like children than follow actual Biblical principles. I know people are given the choice/make the decision to attend these schools, but they just sound so old-fashioned and boring. And this is coming from someone who was offered a full scholarship to Liberty U and refused (stricter than this article implies-Biology majors beware, as evolution isnt even a theory to them). All appeals for Involuntary AdministrativeWithdrawal should be addressed to the Vice President for Student Life and Christian Ministries within 48 hours of the decision. I assure you, not all Christian are like that. The official Honor Code of BYU strictly outlaws camping trips with members of the opposite sex, though instances with separate accommodations for males and females will at least receive a modicum of consideration and reduced discipline if unauthorized. Minor infractions include borrowing and not attending chapel and group devotions on a regular basis. We hope you continue to read and criticize our articles. For any college that you are considering, know before you go. It was merely noted that many outside the affiliated fundamentalist organizations may look over their rules and find their jaws dropping. Which brings up the question Why go there if you dont fit? In addition to outright banning the expected illegal and discourteous behaviors, premarital sex and homosexuality are considered as absolute in their alleged offense to God and society as stealing and lying. Institutions promoting morality in an immoral society. Like that other poster, we werent able to read the handbook until the day we arrived. If you make it conform to Biblical principles, it will be considered politically incorrect, and will be shut down as soon as possible. All men and women are expected to dress modestly, stay well-groomed, and avoid tattoos and body piercings.